Over the last year, since the central banks of the world collapsed interest rates and provided a short-term game changer, I’ve been often asked when the real estate market would again turn down. To which I’ve replied it’s hard, if not impossible, to pin point an exact time, but I could tell you what it would look like… that being an inventory surge would signal the market turning.
So, knowing that, let me take this opportunity to state that I am now fairly confident in saying that we’ve arrived. The market turn is upon us.
That may seem like an odd statement, especially coming off the release of the March numbers which saw the biggest jump in average prices ever… but do not be fooled by the death rattle, that was the result of one final wave of dumb money and desperation, not of market forces. There could still be some upward drift left, these rallies typically have such blow-off tops… but all the legitimate market forces have turned, and are now pointing down.
We here in Edmonton know exactly what such a turn looks like… we’re not even three years removed from the end of the Alberta bubble. But then just as the bust was really taking root, interest rates were plunged and we ended up with a little suckers rally last year, one that took practically the entire country by storm. The rally was rather muted on the price front locally, as all the prior downward momentum saved us from setting new highs as much of Canada experienced, but it still goosed a market that was already over priced here. So, we made our hole wider, but not deeper.
Change in inventory is a great measure of a markets mood when it comes to buying vs selling, and while it is certainly dependant on seasonality, we know from history that such fluctuations are largely limited to within +/- 500 properties from one month to the next. That was true right up until the bubble burst in 2007… at which point the market started to cool and sellers suddenly flipped from reluctant to desperate and the market was soon flooded.
Soon that month-over-month change blew way past +500… and +1000… and +1500… before finally topping out around +1900, almost 4x anything that had been witnessed before. This didn’t just eke out a new record, this destroyed it… and sent inventory to levels never thought imaginable for Edmonton.
This massive upsides also resulted in massive downsides come each fall, but while the month-over-month changes swung wildly, the overall inventory levels remained extremely high. Then 2008 arrived, and the swings reverted upward again, and MoM changes against broke the +1000 mark, this eventually resulted in inventory blowing well past the 10,000 mark (broke 11K in fact)… more than double what even the record high had been prior to the boom/bust.
But then something interesting happened. Sellers realized they were flooding the market, and started to pull back listings. By the summer of ’08 listings were already starting to plunge, well ahead of when they normally did. Inventory remained historically high, but it looked like levels were dropping… this while sales tallies were poor, and the financial crisis turned poor into dismal, obviously not a result of actual clearing out.
Then we get to 2009, and looking the MoM graph again, and it looks positively normal from an inventory behaviour perspective. Largely back within the +/- 500 range again (other than December). This led some to conclude the market had re-entered balance, and this was just the “new normal”… while others, like myself, suspected this balance was an illusion caused by the interest-rate induced rally, that there was really a significant shadow inventory out there, and that when consumer sentiment shifted that the inventory problem would again rear it’s ugly head.
So, for the “new normal” crowd… this is where I say, “I told you so!”
As we can see, as soon as 2010 rolled around, inventory again started to take off, and surpassed the 500 threshold. I was hesitant to make any declarations in light of the January and February numbers, as while in excess of +500, it wasn’t by extreme margins and wanted to make sure it wasn’t just and anomaly caused by the recoil from fall delistings.
But with the March release of numbers, any doubt was removed… stick a fork in this rally, it’s done. And according to the preliminary April numbers, we’re in for another similar jump this month.
The same story also appears to be playing out in markets right across the country this spring. Even the CREA acknowledged the massive wave of listings, almost 100,000 nationwide. We in Alberta has seen this show just three years ago, we know how it plays out… now the rest of the country is going to get unfortunate opportunity to find out for themselves.











Love the blog Edmonton. I just posted something very similar about the Vancouver housing market. Oh It’s panic time.
http://paul-northvancouverhomes.blogspot.com/
I am a long time reader. Just wanted to thank you for all of the work you put into this gem of a blog.
This bubble is going to end very badly. Some say the price drop will only be 20% if that; however, with the issues of global debt I think it will be much more. Canada has yet to experience what the US has, but we will.
Although I rent, I am concerned about the effects this fallout will have on all of us. There is going to be a lot of anger.
This is an excellent blog and I look forward to what you write as it keeps me up to date and well informed.
Thank you.
Ohh, throwing down the gauntlet! Kind of sink or swim when you make a call like this.
@Jawbone – It’s almost a no win, as such things only really get remembered when you’re wrong. But alas, I’ve been saying this is what it would look like for a year, and when it arrives I better own it rather than pussy foot around it. Anyway, there is no glory in waiting for something to pass and then try to find a way to tell the world you were right after the point.
Fair enough, and I think you’re right about this months numbers being big too. I was browsing listings on a realtor site and it had a stats figure. Listings this month a dwarfing even those of last month, I’ll try attaching a screencap.
It’s time some sanity returns to the market. Listings are now surging, and some buyers may defer buying. A correction of 15% to 20% is possible from the second half of 2010.
I was just chastised by an elderly woman I know here in Calgary. I’d been planning to fly to Brussels today, but of course BA isn’t going anywhere. She called to see what I was going to do now.
I sold my place (after only owning it for less than a year) in 2007 as I’d been told to get out of real estate or I’d eventually be taken down. I took note and listened to the person who gave me that information. Even though I lost money, I still know what I did was the right thing to do. Anyhow, back to this elderly friend. She commented on how prices are going up again here and that if I’d been smart I would have bought something again last year when interest rates were low. She further informed me it will probably now be next to impossible for me to ever own again. I told her that last year wasn’t the right time to buy, nor is this year. I tried to explain why and she just laughed at me.
No guts no glory!
Even if your prediction doesn’t turn out, I’ll always admire your opinions because at least you back it up with logic, reasoning, and research. Any fool can flip a coin and have a 50% chance of looking like a genius, but I think those that ‘show their work’ are the ones to be respected.
@CM – I just figured that I’ve been saying an inventory wave was coming for a year now and that it would again signal the turning of the market… I damn well better be able to recognize it when it forms
@Helena – You’re not the only one, there are a handful of other readers here that I’ve corresponded with that indicate they sold in ’07 and have been sitting out since. Must have been tough to go against the flow like that, but you’re not alone.
Here’s what we’re seeing in Calgary…
It’s looking like SFH inventory will be 5,000+ at month end. At least, it’s on pace for 5,200.
Pending sales seem to be struggling to stay above 400.
The last time we saw a great build up of inventory it went something like this…
A look back at 2008:
Jan -> Feb ~ +24%
Feb -> Mar ~ +19%
Mar -> Apr ~ +15%
Apr -> May ~ +3% (finally peaking at 7,099)
and this time we have…
Jan -> Feb ~ +24%
Feb -> Mar ~ +29%
Mar -> Apr ~ +30% (estimated)
Of course it doesn’t mean much, but if past history is a guide, we could still have 2 more months of ‘post peak inventory growth’ (assuming this month is the peak) and assuming a 5% drop for the next months thereafter it would look something like this…
Apr -> May + ~25% , bringing us to 6,500 SFH
May -> June + ~20%, bringing us to 7,800 SFH
June -> July + 3%, bringing us to 8,034 SFH
Of course that’s all just crystal ball material.
Kevin – How high do you think inventory will get this year?
@Ron – That’s the $64,000 question now isn’t it. In ’07 it peaked just shy of 10,000… in ’08 it peaked just over 11,000… last year it peaked just over 7,500… and it currently sits at 6,770. Probabilities are probably the best way I can think of expressing my ideas on the issues.
I’d say there is about a:
- 99% chance it’ll exceed 7,500
- 50% chance it’ll exceed 9,000
- 10% chance it’ll exceed 10,000
So, it will almost certainly exceed last years high water mark… but probably won’t hit the levels seen in ’07 or ’08. To clarify that point, I think there are probably easily 10,000+ properties out there the owners would like to sell (to pull numbers out of my ass, I’d guess between 12-15K), but I think many learned a little something about flooding the market and that’s why we say the pullback in ’08 and into ’09… so I’m guessing we’ll level off around 9,000, as speculators want to avoid breaking a psychological threshold like 10K. But who knows?!
If inventories are climbing at this pace with historically low interest rates, what happens when the Bank of Canada starts raising rates. For those of you that watch oil prices and inventories, what happens here in Alberta when the price of oil returns to prices supported by fundamentals? If you think real estate inventories are high, take a look at what is happing with crude. Gas isn’t going up to a reasonable level anytime soon. If Alberta is still losing jobs and having negative net migration at $85 per barrel oil, it could get very nasty here before the end of the year.
The only wild card is the provincial and federal governments. With both governing parties are holding on by the thinest of margins (one in minority, the other one trailing in the polls), there will be desperation to stop the sliding housing market and the trickle down affect on the economy. There is no way we avoid a “double dip recession” if housing collapses across the country. I’m resigned to the fact that things are going to get nasty, but don’t eliminate the possibility of the governments doing something drastic.
Mabus
@ Kevin, thanks so much for all your work on this blog, it is truly a breath of fresh air, and I hope it has helped at least some people steer clear of disaster. May I ask what software you use to produce your charts?
@ Mabus, I agree that government would once again be willing to sacrifice whomever or whatever is required (regardless of long-term consequences) in order to postpone the day of reckoning and thus boost their chances of re-election. But I doubt that is technically possible at this point — there is just no gas left in the tank, as the majority of all the remaining dumb money has already been suckered in. Combine that with the preemptive face-saving and posturing we have seen coming from the BoC and CMHC, and I think the writing is on the wall.
@ChrisG – The program is iWork ’09 – Numbers… It makes great looking stuff, but is a little bloated
@Mabus – If consumer sentiment turns I’m not sure how much the government can do to induce spending. They can lay some bait or issue incentives, but if consumers lose their taste for something, it wouldn’t do much… and I’m not even sure how much they can do with the consciousness of deficits and all the alarms being sounded regarding consumer debt. The only thing that can keep the bubble going is continuing credit expansion, and we’re already near the breaking points that eventually deflated the US and UK housing bubbles.
As much as everyone talks real estate, and like 70% of people own it… only a very small portion of the population actually locked in during the bubble and are really exposed to a downturn… and they’re young people, who don’t have much wealth or political stroke. If taxpayers are posed with the decision to either spend billions to bail out a small part of the population… or throw them under the bus and let them pay for their own mistakes… I think there is more political capital in the former to be honest.
Ultimately, people may like the paper gains of thinking how much their house is worth… but that is nothing when confronted with the very real costs of propping up the market through taxation. Money you can touch gets a much more visceral reaction than money in theory… especially when you have to give it to someone else.
Here is an interesting interview with Danielle Park and the CREA’s Gregory Klump (h/t Jen).
http://a123.g.akamai.net/7/1/8753/1w/cbcstorage.download.akamai.com/8753/maven_legacy/thumbnails/April_19_Pt_2.mp3
Klump keeps it together long enough to get out his convoluted and obviously scripted opening out, but as soon as the host starts getting him off his talking points, he quickly drowns in his own BS. Maybe throwing out random big words works on the layperson, but to anyone familiar with the terms he just sounds hopelessly full of shit.
Park on the otherhand, as always is great to listen to, and takes a real common sense and analytical approach to economics and investing. She’s a nice alternative to Turner, less sensationalizing and not as in love with the sound of her own voice.
My favourite part is where Klump is talking about his “demand-driven downturn” (about 9:00 in on the player):
Klump: “demand drops, days-on-market rise, inventories rise, sellers on the other hand hold out for peak price. (And) so the spread between bid/ask prices rises, agreements aren’t reached, and as a result there is a sharp drop in the number of units sold….”
*long pause as Klump digests what has just come out of his mouth*
“but NOT a decline in pricing.”
Classic.
Haha, yeah that was good… I wish they would have thrown it back at him and asked exactly what conditions would have to exist for there to be a decline in prices. That really sends those guys into fits since their entire premise is that prices never go down… but we know prices can drop, we’ve seen it recently right on our doorstep… and they can’t name any conditions that don’t currently exist.
- Interest rates are rising
- Incomes are insufficient to sustain prices
- Demand will dwindle
- Supply will surge
I’m pretty sure his head would explode, cause he acknowledged every single one of those points during the segment. He had just spelled out the perfect storm for price declines (hell, in the US/UK they didn’t even have rising interest rates and they imploded)… but that’s not the message he’s paid to issue, so, that’s what we get
Yeah and his voice sounded pretty nervous. You could tell he wasn’t very excited about being on there. He know’s this is the end and is lying thru his teeth.
Wow, thanks for posting that podcast. I had not been exposed to Danielle Park before, but I was very impressed, not just by her analysis but also her poise. Even just listening to scam artists like Klump tend to anger me; I can’t imagine trying to debate one while being expected to keep things civil.
Reminds me of the “unbiased” advice young Canadians were fed when Don Campbell went on The Hour:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT7hMK8Z9O8&feature=related
Of course Stroumboulopoulos does not have the background to adequately counter Campbell’s “advice” that the best thing young Canadians could do for themselves in the Spring of ’09 was to buy their first property via 5% down and artificially low interest rates. But at least he called him on his “you don’t have to pay for CMHC insurance,” sleazy sales line.
Kevin, maybe these guys heads will finally explode when they realize the full gravity of their actions?
I actually caught this segment on the radio too. I was even thinking to myself what the hell is this idiot saying. The host kept prodding him, she knew it was complete crap, and he just kept spewing it out. It was amazing.
Bond yields jumped big time this morning… http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=GCAN5YR%3AIND
Highest they’ve been since July ’08 now… if these hold I wouldn’t be surprised to see the banks ratchet up mortgage rates again later in the week.
Daniell Park is a smart girl, and it’s tough to debate against a bunch of people that are clearly disagreeing partly for the reason to simply disagree. Great interview though.
Regarding inventory, I think it’s actually a tough call until after the full effect of all the changes have been realised to evaluate the extent of the market weakness.